awwwwwwwww thanks peeps, they are adorable and a great family to play, quick history lesson, Keiki is Eva's lovely creation and Ethan is mine, I downloaded Keiki and they got on so well together it was love at first sight I think. Soooooo a little bit later and they had Kieran who Eva named, then while I was busy doing other things in game the twins were born my first ever mixed sex twins. Thats where we are at now