M'kay, so, this is my Katerina Graham sim (Bonnie Bennett from The Vampire Diaries.) I can definitely see some resemblance, but I was wondering if I could get some feedback on her.


(A simple "mugshot".)


(Split shot, mostly for the mouth.)


(Another split, this time for the eyes and nose.)


(Split profile.)

So, right away I noticed that her nose is a tiny bit too big/long, and her mouth is a little too high. But her mouth is SO... sfldvkjsbkfjhdvv! xD Its really unique and its hard to get it right. Constructive criticism is always welcome! Although keep in mind that I no longer have any sliders and do not plan on getting any more until the Pets/1.26 issue(s) is completely fixed. So there is only so much I can do.

Anyway, what do you think? :D

Dude, great likeness, but I'm not loving that skintone on her lol She looks yellow! Wait... is she supposed to? lol XD Oh shutting up now XD

I think I see much resemblance !! Awesome !
I would decrease her nose length a bit and the nose tip a bit more up and see what she looks like ;)

i like the hair color in the one picture with the pink background
maybe try that hair color with like different blended colors?
just and idea but it does look close to looking like her

Okay, update! Images are all the same as before, just with the updated sim.

I changed:

-- skintone (made it less yellow and a click darker).
-- decreased nose length a bit.
-- turned the nose tip up a bit (too much, I know. xD)
-- thinned septum width a tad.
-- different eye shadow & lipstick.
-- lightened her hair and made it browner.
-- moved her mouth down a bit.
-- brought the upper lip sides in a bit (with aWT's upper lip outer corner slider).
-- widened her cupid's bow.
-- rounded & thinned bottom lip just a tad.
-- changed upper lip shape (with Hermi's lip shape slider).









Like I said, I realize I turned her nose tip up a bit too much - I'll change that soon. I actually really like the lighter hair color (thanks Stevie! <3). The eyeshadow at the inner corners of her eyes looks a little weird, so I'll definitely change that. And I know I said I wouldn't use any sliders, but I needed them to change her mouth and nose the way I wanted. xD

Thanks for the tips, dears! Anything else? ;D

Oh wow! That's even better lol God I hate such talented people. I can never make anyone look like a real person in that game

I think she needs a different hair entirely...

http://www.peggyzone.com/Sims3Detail.html?id=000765&sortId=00

or this one

http://mybluebookblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/peggyspecial-july09-convertedfixed.html

or this one

http://www.thesimsresource.com/downloads/details/category/sims3-sets-hair/title/*free*newsea-jingle-female-hairstyle/id/1059189/

because that girls hair is not that straight...also switch the eyeliner for this one:

http://nygirlsims.blogspot.com/search/label/Eyeliner

@ Cece - look another feedback thread *wink*wink*

@ Kaitlynmylove- i have nothing to say and that's rare . its bang on. perfection. you definitely got talent. good job!

@ Shyne - Thanks...? I guess. xDD But really, thank you, Shyne! And thanks for the tip about her yellow skin. In some pictures it looks a tad yellowish, but I do prefer the new tone much better. <3

@ Dachs - She actually had a hair style similar (to the one I used) in an episode of The Vampire Diaries, and I loved that look on her, so I think I'm going to keep it. I downloaded that hair specifically for her, too. I mean, its a little different than hers, but that's to be expected, yes? xD Here's a screencap. ^^ I did look at the other hairs, and I actually have the last one, but I just felt like it wasn't right. As for the eyeliner, Nygirl's site takes a while to load for me (I have dialup internet, unfortunately) but I'll look at it now.

@ FREEDOM_55 - FLBVJDKKMSAFQXMNFV. Did THE FREEDOM_55 just tell me a sim of mine was perfection? :O Okay, fangirling aside, I'm a big fan of yours, so I do know how critical you are when giving feedback. So it means a lot that you think she's perfect! Thank you very much! <3

Anyway, I'm a bit pressed for time at the moment, so I'll make the few changes she needs and update again later, just for some last minute critiquing, if needed. ;D

Meep, sorry I didn't update last night like I said! I worked super, super late (until 7 in the morning!) so I hadn't had a chance to boot up my sims. Anyway, I downloaded a few Peggy hairs, and I found one that was actually very similar to Kat's hair in the image with the red/pink background.

I changed:

-- the hair, obviously. I also made it a tad darker (although you can't really tell. I may darken it even more).
-- different eyeliner.
-- fixed her eyeshadow.
-- turned her nose down a bit.
-- lengthened her nose some, as I felt it was just a tad too short.
-- I believe I edited her lips just a tad (but I can't remember for sure. xD)









To be honest, I feel like she's going the other way, kind of. When I first saw that hair, I was ecstatic, because I felt that it looked a lot like in the picture. But once I see it on her, I think I prefer the first one I had. :/ Her makeup is also a little.. i don't know, off looking, I guess. But honestly, the more I look at her like this, the more I see the likeness, but I still don't know if I want to keep this hair or the old one, or change her makeup again. Help me, guys! I need your opinions! <3 Also, her nose is still off - I realized that I needed to bring the nose bridge up some. I have my game open right now and I changed that, but I'm too lazy to take and reedit the images right now. xD Besides, she'll probably be sitting there in CAS until I get some feedback and change her again. ;D

Anyway, enough rambling. Thoughts?

That is her hair but to be honest it may not be the most flattering like you said...you have to do like you want. She will be in your game....the ones who download her are more then likely going to change her around to their own way that they like anyway...So i think as far as resembling you did awesome the first way and this way...you just have to make up your mind what you like.

Well, I do want to make her acceptable for others, in case they DO want to keep her the way she is. ^^ But I get what you're saying. I think that I'll go with the first hair, as it just kind of... fit her better, I guess. :] Thanks Dachs!

Is there anything else needed to be changed? As far as her face itself, I mean. I got her nose fixed, and I may fiddle with her mouth a bit more (although I have a feeling I could fiddle 'til I'm blue in the face and never get it right. xD). If I can get her outfits (and the last touches to her face/hair) completed tonight, I'll probably upload her ASAP. I'm sick of looking at her. xD

I think she is looking good right now...so yeah i wouldn't mess to much more with her.

I see Freedom!! Yay!!

Okay...here is my two cents.

The hair def I feel needs to be different. I have a hair in my game that I will try to find and take some pics of that pretty much look exactly like her style.

I think you have the eyes spot on! The eyebrows aren't long enough nor arched enough.

Mouth spot on !! Just longer, not wider...mouth is a tich too short.

Nose, the bridge needs to be a bit slimmer, tip tilted down just a tich and the bridge height raised.

I've never seen this actor before so I'm basing everything on the pics provided.
All this is of course, my op.

If I can remember, If I don't please remind me, to find the hair I'm talking about. I'm pretty sure it might be spot on!!

Thanks for letting us feedback her!!

Omg Cece, you posted at just the right time! I was about to be completely done with her. xD

As for the hair, I could definitely use some help. All the ones I have that (sort of) match her in the pictures don't really look good on her sim-self. So don't forget to find that hair! ;D

Her mouth is so difficult to sim, its so unique. xD I figure I'll never get it completely right. But I'll definitely widen it like you said. ^^

As for the nose, I pretty much fixed all that you said - I just haven't posted pictures of the most recent changes. ^^ I don't think I thinned the bridge, though, so I'll take care of that soon.

She plays in the show The Vampire Diaries. I'm attempting to sim the three main ladies, all of which, ironically, have really unique mouths. xD Anyway, thanks for getting the feedback section up! You have no idea how excited I was when I saw it! <3

Right, so. I'll do these changes as soon as possible and post some updated pictures. <3 Thank you for the feedback!

Aw, fantastic job!! I LOVE The Vampire Diaries. The only bit of feedback I can give you is the nose. The bridge needs to come out more . Apart from that.. WOW! Well done Can't wait to see the recent pictures.. Will she be up for download? :D

CECE! If you see this, I forgot to mention last night that those eyebrows (which are Evie's exclusives) are the best I could find that mostly fit her actual eyebrow shape. *shrug*

Jessica - I haven't had a chance to boot up my game since last night, but like I told Cece, I have her nose pretty much down, except for the bridge width, as she specified. xD Because I just haven't posted my most recent updates, 'cause I was too lazy to take more pictures at that time. xD But anyway, I'll make sure I really take a super good look at her, to see if I missed anything. I'm done with her mouth. I'm not messing with it anymore, and her eyes seem to be perfecto. xD But I'll fix that little bit of her nose. ^^

And she most definitely will be up for download! :D Within the next day or so, hopefully. And like I said before, I'll also be simming Candice Accola and Nina Dobrev. I have both of them started, and Candice is almost finished, actually. :] AND YAYYYY, about you liking TVD! You seem to be the first person to look at this thread that has watched it. xD

SO ANYWAY, I'll definitely post some updated pictures in a little bit. I have some work to do, but after that's done I'll boot my game up.

Hey I got that hair, took pictures and I will post them later this evening. (Sunday) I got several different styles, but I will tell you which one I think is the one that favors her real style most.

I will also see if I can find you some eyebrows, but if you use this hair you won't need any.

Cece - Okay! :D Thank you so much for your help! <3

Anyway, here are the most recent updates. Since the last update, I changed:

-- her skin. I darkened it just a little more.
-- darkened her hair a tiny bit more, but its yet again barely noticeable.
-- moved the nose tip down, which made it look too long so I reduced the length a tad.
-- moved the nose bridge up and thinned it a bit.
-- changed her lipstick. Again. xD









The nose still isn't right, I know this. I'll fix it soon. When I turned the tip down and it made it look too long, I shortened it, but then it made it too short. xD Or maybe not. I haven't decided if I like it the way it is. xD Anyway, I'll fix it once I decide. ^^ To be honest, the more I look at that hair, the more I like it on her. But I'd still like to see the hairs you have, Cece. <3 I'm not sure if I'll keep that lipstick, I'm just testing out different ones. Its a little too dark, I'll lower the opacity soon.

Here are pics of the hairs I was telling you about. Sorry it took a bit to get those uploaded for you. These are just suggestions and I completely understand if you don't use any of them. The last one looks closest to one of her styles in the pics you posted.

Oooh! I love the first one and the last two, and they are all actually similar to styles she has had. Where can I download them at? :D I actually have the third one from the top, but it didn't look right on her. Just so you know. ^^

Eeeek!! I will have to post the pics in the WCIF thread...I have NO idea where they are from. I will check on that for ya!!

Okay, thank you so much, Cece! <3

Oopsie...I forgot!! I will try and remember to post them later this evening, if I do forget again, you can just post the piccies. But I did say that I would and I'm a person of her word...even if I forget a couple of times!!

The first hair is Newsea's Espresso:
http://www.thesimsresource.com/downloads/details/category/sims3-sets-hair/title/Newsea%20Espresso%20Female%2BMale%20Hairstyle/id/968590/
Lotus re-textured it here:
http://ageiha.livejournal.com/13607.html#cutid1

Second hair is Newsea's Oxygen:
http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/newsea/downloads/details/category/sims3-sets-hair/title/newsea-oxygen-female-hairstyle/id/1035931/
Lotus re-textured it here:
http://ageiha.livejournal.com/13272.html#cutid1

The second to last hair Anubis alpha-edited and re-textured TumTum's edited Peggy 442:
http://anubis360.blogspot.com/2010/08/tumtums-peggy-hair-0442-pookletd-alpha.html

The last one is Peggy #765 re-textured by IN3S: http://rubb3rducki3s.blogspot.com/2011/10/peggy-female-hair-765-pookletd.html


Also, you might already have this - as it was created several months ago - but, I think Jasumi's "Lip Fatness" slider: http://wwwb.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=449874&c=1 is really helpful in creating some mouth types. For that matter, the nose and brow ridge sliders are great too: http://wwwb.modthesims2.com/d/442015.

I think you did a wonderful job re-creating her! Just love her eyes!

Ameenah you are a gem!! Thanks so very very much for posting those links!

:D No problem! You are always super-busy, so I figured it would be helpful.

Eek! I know its only been a couple days, but it isn't really like me to go even a single day without posting in one of my topics. xD ANYWAY, I'm sorry I haven't posted here sooner. I've been too busy/distracted to do much sims stuff lately. :/

NyGirl, thank you so much! I'm glad you like my rendition. <3

Ameenah and Cece, you have no idea how thankful I am for your help! I'll update this thread with pictures of the different hairs so you lovelies can help me decide which one to use. ;D It may be a while, though, because I have dial-up internet, so sites/downloads take forever to load and stuff. ;~; I'll see if I can take my laptop into town soon and utilize free wi-fi to get those hairs downloaded. <3

Well, mediafire seriously hates me, guys (hence why I will not EVER use it. xD) SO unfortunately, I could only download ONE of the hairs that Ameenah linked to. So I just took the three hairs I have (including the one I downloaded from the links above) and took screencaps of them.







Whatcha think? ^^ Also, here is a split view so you can compare them all side by side. <3

She looks awesome! I'm sorry MediaFire was being poopy - if there are any of the hairs that you want but weren't able to download I would be glad to email them to you (if that would be any easier) - I'm also sorry about your connection! I have pretty cheap/slow DSL in my apartment, but dial-up would be a total pain.

I think I like the first two hairstyles better, but for some reason, even though it doesn't quite look like her hair (straighter) the third style makes the sim more recognizable as Kat Graham. I think it's just the low-sitting fringe that is keeping the likeness.

Ameenah, thank you SO much for offering, but I think downloading files from an e-mail would take even longer than downloading them regularly. :/ But still, thank you so much for the offer! I appreciate it so much. <33 And MediaFire rarely works for me. Like, the page loads, and then when I click on the "download" link, it just refreshes the page. Nothing more. You have no idea how depressed I get when I see something I really want to download and it only has a download link to MediaFire. xD

As was stated in previous posts, the first hair I screencapped in the previous post is pretty much the most similar to her hair, at least to the style in the image with the red/pink background. At first I was a bit iffy about it, but the more I look at it on her, the more I like it. :] I'm not a fan at all of the second hair on her, actually. Its not right on her. And the third one, I do like it, but I get it that its a little... not her. You're right, the bangs/fringe aren't exactly right on her.

As of right now (since I can't download any of the other hairs you linked to) I'm definitely leaning towards the first hairstyle pictured above. I feel it best suits her. Although I'm still a bit partial to the third one. GAH, I can't decide. xD

I totally adore the second one!!! I think it suits her to a 'T'! And you must have the patience of a Saint to have dial up and still download stuff. OMG I would not be able to stand it!! Maybe hopefully things will change for you in the near future and you can have easier access to wi-fi!

i love the 2ed hair

Well, okay then. xD I guess the second one it is? :D Once I get that situated (and decide on a simple hair for her sleep/athletic/swim wear), i'll get her uploaded! :D

BUT BEFORE THAT - is there ANYTHING else that needs to be fixed? As far as her face goes, mostly. I may fiddle with her body using body sliders (which I already did, but I may have to do it a bit more. ^^).

I think her face is really set - looks perfect! I'm excited to see her up for download.